Enterprise Architecture 4.0: Agentic Governance and the Leadership Mindset for the Age of Autonomy
Agentic systems are reshaping the foundation of the enterprise faster than most organizations can adapt. In this episode of Bold Agendas, Mimi Brooks is joined by Jesper Lowgren—Agentic Enterprise Architect Lead at DXC technology and creator of the Enterprise Architecture 4.0 framework—to explore how enterprise architecture, governance, and leadership must evolve for the agentic era.
Together, they examine Enterprise Architecture 4.0, the new governance requirements of agentic systems, and why leaders must shift from reactive oversight to governing through real-time guardrails and conditions. Jesper shares the mindset shifts leaders need, the risks of operating between legacy and agentic systems, and what sets organizations up for success as autonomy and uncertainty redefine the enterprise.
If you’d like to reach out to Jesper, you can find him on LinkedIn or on his website
Jesper’s Books:
- Design or Be Designed: The Agentic AI Survival Guide
- Agentic Governance: Governing the Space Between
Timestamps:
00:00 – The Agentic Shift: Rethinking Architecture, Governance, and Leadership for Real-Time Enterprise
10:03 – Governance as Strategy: Designing Constraints for Agentic Systems
14:10 – Redefining Enterprise Architecture for the Agentic Era
18:38 – How Legacy Enterprises Begin the Shift Toward Agentic Systems
23:37 – Understanding Emergence: Why Traditional Architecture Can’t Support Agentic Systems
27:16 – Understanding Micro and Macro Governance in Agentic Systems
29:13 – Shifting Leadership Toward Governance Embedded in the System
31:07 – Embedding Governance into Transformation Strategy for the Agentic Era
36:49 – Avoiding the Gray Zone: The Danger of Operating Between Legacy and Agentic Systems
40:40 – The Challenge of Living in Transitional States During Transformation
43:20 – The Five Mindset Shifts Leaders Need for the Agentic Era
48:02 – Connecting AI Maturity Models to Leadership Mindset Readiness
55:59 – The Challenge of Technical and Cultural Debt in an Agentic World
57:48 – What Sets Leaders Up for Success in Agentic Transformation
01:02:39 – Where to Find Jesper’s Work on Agentic Governance and System Design








